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Version: Fri Apr 15 12:44:44 EDT 1994
Written-by: Nick Sayer
Edited-by: Norman Sippel
The Ren And Stimpy Show: Frequently Asked Questions
Part Two Of Two
Written By: Nick Sayer
Cowritten and Edited By: Norman Sippel
BEGIN PART TWO
9. Does anyone have a list of episodes?
It is posted at the same time as this FAQ. A more complete breakdown of
showings and background is also posted at the same time called "The Ren And
Stimpy Encyclopedia." See #16 for more information about archived
information.
10. What is the title of the one that spoofs "Wild Kingdom"?
This is a point of controversy. The titles read "A Cartoon / Written by Jim
Smith & John K. / Storyboards by Jim Smith / Directed by John K. / Untamed
World".
Some believe it is titled simply "Untamed World" under the theory that the
first thing you see doesn't have to be the title. It would have been awkward
to put the credits after "Untamed World" because of how the action goes. It
would have been similarly awkward to start off with "Written by". "A
Cartoon" was thus simply used to intro the credits.
Some believe that since "A Cartoon" is capitalized and appears by itself
that it must be a title, and call it "A Cartoon" or "A Cartoon: Untamed
World".
Official word from Spumco has reached the author (from
jeffy@athena.mit.edu) that Spumco folk internally referred to it as
"Nature Show".
In one of the new cartoons, a sequel named "Untamed World 2: Lair Of The
Lummox" may prove the name to be "Untamed World." Keep your VCRs ready,
folks, because they are getting close to airing this one soon.
The R&S Comics use the title "Untamed World" for their aquatic adventure
(with Mr. Sea Horse:).
11. Does Nickelodeon censor R&S?
The opening titles contain scenes from "Big House Blues" and point to the
possibility that Nickelodeon has cut scenes from the show. In particular,
Nick's rendering of BHB does NOT show the scene where Ren is 'drinking from
the porcelain bus.' Additionally, although Nick originally showed the
entire "Magic Nose Goblins" ending, they have since then started doing a
quick fade as the scene panned over the 'field of green.' There are other
places in the series where editing may have taken place. In particular, in
"Untamed World", there is a blackout, then a wipe to the next scene.
Nowhere else does this take place.
From jeffy@athena.mit.edu:
There were a few incidences in "Big House Blues." In one scene, the
dogcatcher asks R&S if they like to have fun; R&S agree. "Well go ahead,
have fun!" [then, in the missing footage, the dogcatcher turns his back, and
says in a feminine voice, "See if I care."] [If you freeze frame it, you can
see the dogcatcher turn around and put his hands on his hips in a rather
feminine stance. Just a brief glance.] Also, during the sleep sequence, Ren
ends up kissing Stimpy, then wakes up, screams, says something about having
to "clean himself," and goes to toilet, drinking out of it (not vomiting
into it). Or maybe it's eating, who can say.
From ja1r+@andrew.cmu.edu:
Like that other Jeff said, Ren dreams he's having a romantic encounter and
ends up kissing Stimpy, at which point he instantly wakes up wide-eyed and
dashes over to the PHENOMENALLY rusty and filthy prison toilet, takes a
loooong drink to wash his mouth out (!), glares back and Stimpy and shouts,
"HAVE YOU *NO* SENSE OF PERSONAL HYGIENE???"
Editor's Note: I have finally seen unedited BHB at a local animation
festival. Most people have forgotten about Stimpy's "sleeper" eyes, and at
the end of the credits, there is a skull and crossbones. I have also read
that John K. said that Ren was dreaming of a female chihuahua.
Furthermore, several cartoons have been nixed by Nick including "Man's Best
Friend (starring George Liquor)" and "Dog Show" because they are too
"adult." The list seems to continue to grow. "Powdered Toast Man," besides
it political punch at the end, has caused Catholicism to condemn it because
of its portrayal of the Pope. "Out West" uses the word "Lord" and "hangin'"
in the same sentence, which makes Nick weary.
On "Sven Hoek," I have seen a test print. Nick edited the nose goblins down
and took away the Sven's line "I finally get a good look at them!" They took
out the sequence where Sven and Stimpy play circus in the closet (and Stimpy
pretends to be a sword swallower who has a bad accident). They also edited
out where Ren looks into the camera and says "And I'm going to gouge your
eyes out! Yea, that's what I'm gonna do!"
On a side note, Nick edited the new WWDTT. It aired "eat olive loaf" and
when it should be "eat olive loaf till you puke!" And on MTV's airing of
"Sven Hoek" certain pieces of music were changed for unknown reasons.
Some other cuts are mentioned below in the questions, but their is one
final stop in our journey of edits and lost footage. In "Haunted House,"
George Liquor was supposed to be the bloody head fairy, not a knock-off
of "Doug." (_Cinfantastique_ magazine) On "PTM", the "Pope" was changed
to "The Funny Little Man With A Pointy Hat," and PTM's closing joke with
the Constitution and Bill of Rights was edited out all together. "Fake
Dad" was edited down from a half-hour to a regular 11 minute cartoon
according to _Cinfantastique_. "Visit To Anthony" was changed because
Billy West played Ren for one scene only, and its quality is not very good.
Here are some circumstances I have a questions about:
1. What is on Kowalski's butt in "Fake Dad" ?
2. Is it true that Sven and Stimpy had a dinner
ala Lady and the Tramp in "Sven Hoek" ?
3. What happened to Stimpy teaching Ren how to rub
two squirrels together in "The Great Outdoors" ?
4. Why did Bob Camp change the soundtrack in "Sven Hoek" ?
5. Will Nick release R&S uncut on VHS? LaserDisc?
6. Why and what did they cut out of in "Rubber Nipple Salesmen"
with George Liquor?
7. Why did "The Cat Who Laid The Golden Hairball" end so stupidly?
8. What were the original lyrics to the song in "Sven Hoek" ?
9. What will they edit in "Man's Best Friend" ?
10. Is "Hollywood Hoek" a real episode or a dream?
11. Why does "Untamed World" have a unfocused camara during the chase?
12. What (and why) is missing from "Visit To Anthony" that was so bad
that part of it was reanimated with Billy West doing Ren?
(The scene is the one where Ren bulges his eyes out--the cut to
the scene looks funny)
13. When will the next new third season show air?!
14. Why is there a cut in animation during the last part of Father's
meeting with R&S in "Visit To Anthony" ?
15. What was cut out of "Fake Dad"?
16. What is in "Untamed World 2" that frightens Nick?
17. Why did Nick cut out the "policeman" scen in "Son of Stimpy"?
(1.) Billy West told me this: whatever you believe it is.
(5.) VHS videos are out--check out the product section of the document.
Unfortunately, they contain the Nick edits and cuts. Laser Discs are
currently unavailable.
(6.) After reading _Cinfantastique_ magazine, I finally found out what
happened in "Rubber Nipple Salesmen" with R&S. Ren knocks on the door, and
George pops out with the oar (a reference to Man's Best Friend), beats them
up, takes them inside, and scales them. Then George cleans them and throws
their parts into the sink, and they say "I think this is going to be a hard
sell."
(8.) The complete words are on the R&S CD. Check out the product section of
this FAQ.
(9.) Another edit mentioned in _Cinfantastique_ magazine was "Man's Best
Friend". Nick will air it only after the violent parts are reanimated
(including the oar hitting scene, the greatest scene in R&S history).
(15.) Half the episode! Nick also cut out half of Ren's Pecs to boot!
12. What about the music?
Apart from a few selections, there is not a single piece of original music
in the whole show. Instead, R&S quotes extensively from the classical
repertoire, as well as 50's style TV themes and takes. In the second season,
Raymond Scott's works including "Powerhouse" and "Toy Trumpet" have made it
onto the show. (Carl Stalling, the famous Warner Brothers musical composer
and director, used his pieces quite frequently.) Space prohibits a complete
listing of music here.
For some reason, "Sven Hoek" has two versions of background music for
reasons unknown. One version has aired consistently on Nick, and the other
on MTV. MTV's version has the Raymond Scott and "Death March of a
Marionette" pieces missing.
John K. is the voice of Stinky Wizzleteats, according to _Cinfantastique_
magazine, of the "Happy Happy Joy Joy" song on "Stimpy's Invention." On
"You Eediot!," Bob Camp plays Stinky.
From Jeffy@athena.mit.edu:
John K apparently wrote "The Muddy Mudskipper Show" theme, and the [words to
the (?)] "Happy Happy Joy Joy" song.
From jondr@sco.com:
Chris Reccardi wrote the [music to the (?)] HHJJ song. He has done work for
Tiny Toon Adventures, among other things.
Editor's Note: The "Happy Happy Joy Joy" song has made it big. It has hit
several charts on different programs (like Dr. Demento, see
rec.music.dementia) and radio stations. It also appears in "Rubber Nipple
Salesmen" and "Sven Hoek" as a single instrument solo. It has recently
appeared in "Haunted House" when Stimpy sings it in the shower.
From otg@csi.compuserve.com:
The closing theme is not an original composition. It's a version of the
Howlin' Wolf (Chester Burnett) classic blues "Killing Floor". No doubt. In
fact, it's VERY similar to the arrangement on the Howlin' Wolf Chess Box.
Editor's Note: Official word is that Howlin' Wolf's song is NOT the closing
theme, but it may sound like it.
Plans for "Der Screamin' Lederhosen" and their R&S record have been
scrapped. The musical group plays the opening and closing music of R&S,
which was created in a jam session. Members of the group include Chris
Reccardi (bass), Scott Huml (drums), and Jim Smith (guitar). Only Jim Smith
works at Spumco now, with the other two at Stabco; Der Screamin'
Lederhosen's has broken up (according to John K. himself in a letter I
received).
Two new R&S CDs are coming out--check out the product section of this FAQ.
13. Where can I get R&S... ? (Note: All dollar amounts are in USA dollars.)
... animation cels?
Some are going to be auctioned off in December 1992.
Rumor has it that the cell from Big House Blues went for the most
at a price (I believe) $7500. (Details are sketchy about this auction.)
If you want one and don't have a lot of money, enter the contest that
_Ren_And_Stimpy_Exposed!_ magazine is running for us loyal fans; the
cel is from "The Boy Who Cried Rat!" where R&S are in front of the
house looking for a plan. Unfortunately, it's over, and I didn't
win :(.
From David Loshin (loshin@think.com):
As I have mentioned in a previous post, I have seen production animation
cels offered for sale by a place called
American Royal Are Corp.
473 Old Country Road
Westbury, NY 11590
The price was $495.00, and they have cels from shows from the first
season (at least; perhaps more). The phone number is 1-800-888-9449.
... board games?
I just got this for Christmas (so I don't know the price). You can get
it at Toys R Us (that's what bag it came in and was confirmed).
R&S: THE LOG CEREAL GAME
Each player gets a comic strip (four strips printed on both sides, eight
episodes) and picks pieces from the big box of cereal. If its your own
piece you need to complete the puzzle, say a R&S phrase and put it down
onto your strip. If you don't say the phrase, you lose the piece. If
you pick someone else's piece, they have to say a phrase before getting
it. If a LOG piece is picked, follow the directions. There is a History
Eraser button strip, and if completed, the game never took place!
Overall, a good concept. My only gripes are as follows. "Space Madness"
and "Stimpy's Invention" are printed on the same mat. All the pieces
are cardboard! I wish there were some plastic pieces. There is no
hangin' scene in the "Out West" strip! =O( =O(
Contents of game: Log cereal pieces, Log action pieces, comic strip
pieces, R&S sticker, History Eraser Button strip, and 4 comic strips.
Rating: Buy it when it comes to an Odd/Big Lots near you!
... books?
_Pat_The_Stimpy_ (A Nitty Gritty Touchy Smelly Book)
(I've seen pictures of this book)
Basically, it is "sense"-full (as apposed to Stimpy's senseless:)
book. An undying tribute to Ren And Stimpy and the 1980's fad
of puffy and scratch 'n sniff stickers. Touch Stimpy, smell the
mountain of stinky socks, and more to sense.
From Richard Goldstein (richardg@cheesewiz.EBay.Sun.COM):
Nick is marketing the heck out of R&S, but this was truly hysterical.
It is illustrated by Chris Reccardi. The book ain't cheap ($9.95), but
I got it as a gift. It was found in a plain old bookstore.
ISBN # 0-448-40199-1.
... bookmarks?
A flat plastic Stimpy or Ren can save your place in your book. Found it
at Cartoon Corner. Each bookmark has tire treads over it because the
box cover for it has a truck chasing after R&S. $3.00 a apiece.
... calendars?
"Advance Comics Catalog" reports that a 18 month calendar for
1993 and 2nd half 1992 will be available in August from Andrews
& McMeel. It'll cost $8.95 and will be in full color (from
michaelb@sol.cse.fau.edu)
Editor's Note: I have one which is a 12 month from the same company.
There is a 1994 calendar from the same people. BUYER BEWARE! My first
calendar had 9 months, and its replacement had 14-15 months (duplicate
months). Apparently, their machine is broken. =O( The calendar features
season 2 shows like "Sven Hoek" and "Son of Stimpy."
... card games?
From John Nolin (john@porta.b24a.ingr.com):
Just saw it at WE B Toys last night.
The card game resembles Go fish in that you try to collect the most
pairs of like cards. Some of the cards include:
Yak Powdered Toastman
Bloated Sack of Protoplasm Mr. Horse
The back of the box said that you could "pick" any pair of cards from
your opponent if you had the "Magic Nose Goblin" card.
Looks sorta neat, but had a $7 price tag for a single deck of cards.
... cereal box offers?
Kellogg's offers (USA only for now):
Frosted Mini-Wheats: 2 UPC Codes (Proofs Of Purchase) for a SNICK
water-filled keychain.
Corn Pops: 2 UPC Codes (Proofs Of Purchase) and $6.95
for a pair of R&S Shorts.
Rice Krispies Treats: 2 UPC Codes (Proofs Of Purchase) for 2 R&S
Posters.
... coffee cups?
A company called "Custom Screenprinting" makes them (from
bub@vuse.vanderbilt.edu).
... colorforms?
From Franklin C Malemud (fmalemud@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu):
Hey I just returned from the store Cartoon Corner in the Columbus City
Center, and now have in my possession....Ren & Stimpy Colorforms.
The scenerio board is the Space Madness cockpit, and you have a
veritable plethora of objects to manipulate including a toothbrush, a
glazed ham, Ren in the water shap that floats, Stimpy, Stimpy sans head,
Ren, Ren sans head, etc...it is quite enjoyable and was only 6 bucks, so
recommend it to all y'all. I think the Cartoon Corner is a nat'l chain,
so you may want to look it up in u'r yellow pages and give em a call.
... comic books?
See Also #16 and #17 for more information)
Marvel Comics have released the first issue in late October 1992.
Future updates about the comics will be going into its own document.
E-mail Fred Ochs at ochs@cs.wmich.edu for your copy of it when it was
ready to be published! (Coming soon to an ftp site near you:)
... dolls and action figures?
Nick has a deal with Mattel to make Ren and Stimpy dolls. According
to _Previews_ magazine, there will be four dolls. One set of two
(one Ren and one Stimpy) will each say six phrases from the show.
(Stimpy's string to talk will be a hairball on his mouth.) The other
set will make flatulating sounds. The "Farting" dolls cost about $15
and the "Talking" dolls cost $35 or so. Mattel is also producing
action figures: Cmdr. Hoek and Cadet Stimpy, Army R&S, and plain ol'
R&S. Deluxe R&S figures are a "bathtub" Ren and a "catbox" Stimpy.
Dakin also has a deal with Nick and has produced two plush toys. They
are available at stores like "Cartoon Corner" and "Spencer Gifts."
Prices run from $14.99 to $35 apiece. For Christmas 1993, Dakin redid
the R&S Dolls: Stimpy is now dressed in Santa clothes, and Ren is now
dressed in Reindeer antlers and bells. (They are about the same price as
the original dolls.)
At Cartoon Corner, mini-dolls of our duo have turned up. Ren is wearing
a "Powdered Toast Man" T-Shirt, and Stimpy has on a "Gritty Kitty"
T-shirt on.
... GIFs?
Check Adam Frampton's R&S FTP list. He posts it bi-weekly on
alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy. (See #17) BTW, the official ftp site for the
R&S documents is aug3.augsburg.edu. (See FTP information)
... key chains?
Cubed Ren and Stimpy bodies which you can mix and match.
... moving stickers?
Cracker Jacks is holding a advertising gimmick with Nick putting
these beauties in their boxes. Make Stimpy hwarf onto Ren by changing
your viewpoint. Cracker Jacks are at a grocery store near you.
... pillows?
From Kevin Bell (finjkb@finaid.indstate.edu):
I was down at the local Spencer's yesterday and saw something new in the
R&S line: Pillows! It's a huge pillow retailing for $19.95 in the 3-D
shape of your favorite cartoon character's face! I personally prefer the
Stimpy over Ren. Ren just doesn't translate as well.
Editor's Note: "He's talking to pillows, kids!" -- Stimpy Pillow, SBD
... postcards?
They have turned up in novelty stores like Spencer Gifts.
Thirty-two postcards for $5.99. (At last look locally, they dropped
in price to a little over $3.)
... posters and shirts?
They've now spread to most any mall T-shirt store.
... sounds?
See Also #17 about the FTP site guide and above question about "GIFS?".
From rogue@cellar.org:
ab20 was closed back in May (1992). The entire archives have
been shuttled to wuarchive.wustl.edu and nic.funet.fi. The Ren
& Stimpy sounds are part of the Amiga archives. (wuarchive has done
some shuffling of the ab20 files, and no longer has a mirror of the
old site. The sounds may have been moved to another directory.)
From bkariger@aunix.fullerton.edu:
We can rightly claim to be the first to have contributed digital
samplings of Ren & Stimpy audio to INet and several other networks.
(Well, OK, we are 98% sure of it; and we would like to know of any
other uploads, both earlier and later.) They originally appeared in
the Info-Mac archives. (The Info-Mac archives are available (by using
FTP, account anonymous, any password) in the info-mac directory on
sumex-aim.stanford.edu [36.44.0.6]. Help files and indices are in
/info-mac/help.) They are in the /info-mac/sound directory:
... video games? (In the order of being released)
Nintendo Gameboy: "Space Madness"
Cadet Stimpy is trying to save Cmdr. Hoek! Stimpy can shoot hairballs
and collect Powdered Toast.
Super Nintendo: "You Veediots!"
Help R&S get through 4 episodes including TBWCR and ITA.
Sega Genesis: "Stimpy's Invention"
Play Ren or Stimpy! Stimpy's Mutato Machine has transformed
their neighborhood into a dangerous place. Can R&S stop it?
One or two players; one player games have the other character running
behind them (like Sonic 2) and can use him to solve puzzles.
... videos and CDs?
Previous announcements that "Big House Blues" was available on
"Tournee of Animation" tapes were in error.
I finally got the info, according to roscoe@csd4.csd.uwm.edu:
(Note: I had to compress the original post for brevity.)
VIDEOS ($14.98 each)
Classics Vol. I - Stimpy's Invention, Untamed World,
Space Madness, Breakfast Tips, Log,
and Goodbye.
Stupidest Stories Vol. I - Stimpy's Big Day/Big Shot,
Robin Hoek, and 2 Dr. Stupid bits.
Stinkiest Stories Vol. I - Nurse Stimpy, Ren's Toothache,
Cat Who Laid The Golden Hairball,
and 2 PTM segments. (Ed: Corrected Info)
Have Yourself A Stinky Little Christmas - Son Of Stimpy makes it
to video with two new
Christmas videos!
NEW VIDEO! Ren and Stimpy: On Duty -- In The Army and RCKY
CDs ($13.98 each)
Crock O' Christmas CD - 6 Christmas songs, 4 original compositions,
and a story featuring Ren as "Ebeneezer
Scrooge" and Stimpy as "Nat King Cole."
(Sure to be unforgettable:)
You Eediot! - Ren and Stimpy are music biz wannabes: Stimpy wants
to spread happiness and joy, while Ren wants to make
a million dollars. 6 favorite Ren And Stimpy songs,
4 new compositions, and a story.
Some other things mentioned in the post that are coming soon:
R&S trading cards (not Nicktoon trading cards) - Prism??
R&S will be in Comics Interview #122 (Interview with Bill Wray)
Two promotional CDs have been found: "Little Crock O' Christmas"
and "Little Eediot."
From Chris Bray (cbray@uafhp.uark.edu):
> Kurt Philip White (u9360212@wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au) writes:
> Did anyone hear the radio interview that Ren and Stimpy did in
> Australia on the 31st October? it was aired on JJJ on Sunday Afternoon
> Fever, and consisted of Maynard asking what sounded like pre-recorded
> R&S a few questions, and in between played a couple of songs off "You
> Idiot" (sp?).
This is from a promo CD called "Little Eediot". I found a copy in a
local used CD store...It's actually 2 CD's...The first being the 12
minute interview with spaces for the DJ's voice...(34 tracks) and the
2nd CD being 3 songs from You Eediot...
... water squirters?
At Cartoon Corner, they had R&S's which you could fill up with water.
When you squeeze their body, water comes out of their mouths. (Stimpy
looks like he's going to hwarf. One can put green Nick Gak in Stimpy
to make him look like he's hwarfing:) $4.50 a piece.
... further information?
_Ren_and_Stimpy_Exposed!_ is entire magazine devoted to our favorite
heroes (Fall/Winter 1992). It had a mailbag where the newsgroup,
alt.fan.ren-and-stimpy, did get a mention!
There is a new spread about R&S on a magazine called _Cinfantastique_.
It's supposed to rival _Film_Threat's_ spread in the amount of
information. Look for it at Walden Books ($5.50). It carries through the
story _R&S_Exposed_ and _Film_Threat_ began and includes edits of our
favorite cartoon.
Go to the library and check out Reader's Guide To Periodicals.
There are a whole slew of R&S articles from the year of 1991, 1992,
and 1993. (Newspapers had many articles too.)
_Film_Threat_ magazine has a 18 page article in its December 1992
issue (number 7). A reprint (basically it is) of the R&S story is
in a magazine called _Wild_Cartoon_Kingdom_. It has even more pictures,
info., George Liquor, and the connection between John K. and Batman: The
Animated Series. WCK came out with a second edition
featuring Batman TAS Movie and Jimmy the "Hapless" Boy. In WCK 3,
John K. interviews Beavis and Butthead ("his favorite cartoon") and
talks about Spumco's last scripts on file. WCKs are must buys!
From Jason Price (Jason.Price@launchpad.unc.edu):
I just got back on this news group and I dunno if anyonez seen this...
I was walking thru the mall and happened to walk into Walden books to
look for a AMiga mag and there it was.....In the thousands of mags IT
stood out like a sore thumb...... " Wild Cartoon Kingdom" by RIP
Magazine.. I got the last copy of it in the store and the guy told me
that it was sent to them out of thin air. If you ever wanted to know
anything about Ren & Stimpy this mag has it.. What Nick thinks about
R&S, pics of John K, the whole cartoon cast, A full episode guide, SOME
of the BEST !! pics from your fave episodes. I mean the mag cost 3.95
but it was worth it. It also has a BIG section on BATMAN and a nother
full episode guide and real cool pics. DEFINITELY a collectors ITEM.. I
have to go see if they have any more..... The sad thing is that we had a
thunderstorm and my windows were up...YES... my mag got wet..;-( ..
gotta like those water marks.NOT!! I just thought I'd throw it in...
LOOK FOR IT, ASK FOR IT.
From Joel Schenkle (donnell@mantaray.micro.umn.edu):
Actually, it is put out by the fine folks at "Film Threat". I think they
are doing this to avoid reissuing the R&S issue of FT, their most
popular issue, and already a collectors item.
... watches?
From Synthia Petroka (sap@lucid.com):
I just picked up two different Ren & Stimpy watches at the local Toys R
Us in San Jose. They were originally marked at $6.99 but were on sale
at $3.98. They are digital watches, and one has a flip cover with a
moving animation sequence of our heros bumping butts from the Happy
Happy Joy Joy song.
For you locals, I was at the store on Capitol at McKee and I found them
amongst the other cartoon digital watches near the electronics section.
They also had some Log Cereal Games.
... "Frontier Log," "Powdered Toast," "Gritty Kitty Litter," etc?
"You sick little monkey!"
"Don't you know cartoons will ruin your MIND?!"
-- Ren, "Stimpy's Big Day"
... other products for the drooling fanboy in each of us?
Stay tuned.
14. Is there a fan club?
Well, this document was created for the fan club on alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy. :)
From jeffy@athena.mit.edu:
Hahaha! It never occured to me, until I was looking at a just-finished copy
of X Magazine #10 ("Big Ren & Stimpy Blow-Out" issue, plug plug) to post the
address of the Almost-Official Ren and Stimpy Fan Club. So:
Ren & Stimpy Fan Club
2930 Jacob St.
Hamtramck, MI 48212
15. What about the future of R&S? (R&S Headline News)
Nutshell:
We have completed the shows for Season 2.
Nick is probably saving "Untamed World 2" and "Man's Best Friend"
for Season 3 (they know that it's the last of the John K. material).
Gory Details:
Dateline
Premiere Date to April 1993:
The future of R&S is very murky at the moment. Rumors are flying of John K's
dismissal for submitting inappropriate material and being behind schedule.
The rights to the characters are owned by Nick, so it's conceivable that R&S
could go on under new management. All of this is way up in the air as this
goes to print.
John K. has been removed as head of R&S, and Spumco has lost the rights to
produce R&S. Bob Camp, one of John's partners at Spumco, will head a new
studio. The name of the company, who is still working on R&S, and other
facts are all still up in the air as the public is concerned.
Nick announced in late fall 1992 that new Ren And Stimpys will be playing
starting on November 7, 1992 and play new ones bi-weekly. Nick is also
looking for a replacement for Ren (and probably Mr. Horse) because John K.
has decided to quit doing the voice. (Billy West is doing the interim Ren,
as mentioned above. Although its more like Ren and Peter Lorre combined,
it's just not John K. But I am biased on this point, though.)
According to a recent poster, John K. now believes that R&S are "dead." He
may correct in the sense that some of their best material is now banned
including the disputed "Out West" cartoon. Nick has six shows left to air
but will hold out as long as possible to keep them fresh; it looks like
re-run mania until February, a ratings month.
It looks like Ren And Stimpy cult fans are in for a bumpy ride. Nick has
ordered 65 (sixty-five) episodes for Season 3, which means the creativity
will go down for sure (if they don't it will be a surprise). The remaining
Season 2 shows have episodes when Ren is played by Billy West. "Monkey See,
Monkey Don't" and "Fake Dad" were the only two new R&S from February
sweeps--not to mention an edited Powdered Toast Man reappeared with the
title of the "pope" changed to "the funny little man with the pointy hat."
On the other end of the spectrum, John K. is now working on two shows for
the fall: "He Hog" (a superatomic pig) and a variety show hosted by George
Liquor ("Hello! I'm George Liquor, American!").
"Out West," BTW, did make a come back unedited in February sweeps. I
believe Nick wanted to save their newest song until the "HHJJ" song died
down in popularity.
"The Great Outdoors" and "The Cat Who Laid The Golden Hairball" have
premiered. Nick is premiering the rest of the cartoons by single airings.
MTV is showing R&S at erratic times; keep an eye on your local listings.
April 24, 1993 Update: "Stimpy's Fan Club" airs, and Nick-Mania is showing
eight shows of our favorite duo. Oh Joy Of Joy!
May 8, 1993: Other new shows have aired and unaired episodes have been in
limbo. They have been covered in the guide and encyclopedia. John K. is
planning to bring back the show in a similar format an attitudes with George
Liquor (Ren-type personality) and Jimmy The Hapless Boy (Stimpy-type dufus)
in a television show, according to _Cinfantastique_ magazine. Nick Mania has
SNICK Mania so that R&S gets played two more times than usual--Oh Joy!
"Visit To Anthony" has been aired.
May 23, 1993: "Kilted Yaksmen" premieres! Big hoopla about it along with
gigantic flying skirted crocostimpies. :-)
Summer 1993: Due to my co-op assignment, I haven't been able to keep a month
to month journal on R&S, but many things have happened. _Film_Threat_ has
re-released their article on R&S in a magazine called _RIP_ (or something
similar), but details are currently sketchy. R&S Comics have been selling
like hotcakes; I know of five places that sell it out consistently in my
area alone! Currently, the comic book is up to #10 (I'm looking for #5);
first editions are hard to find, so Marvel Comics has released the first
four issues of R&S is a package re-release; other re-releases may be
evident! (IMHO, I really liked the artwork in the first story of #9 because
the artist captured the look, feel, and backgrounds of the show.) See the
section on the comic book for more details about the R&S Comic book.
I've been reading a lot of different newsgroups about video games and
animation this summer, and I have discovered something. The R&S video game
on GameBoy is a cool game (according to our beloved Judex:), and there are
continual posts about R&S on rec.arts.animation. So make sure you check out
both! (Look for R&S references in other topics too)
Now onto the show, Ren And Stimpy. A desert of reruns has plagued the fans
of the show, but we've almost made it to the next season! Season 3 should
start August 28, but what Games Animations, the new company, will produce on
its own has yet to be seen. Rumors of a 65 shows for season 3 are still
flying and may be true; "Rocko" (as advertised on Slime Time sweepstakes)
will premiere as a new Nicktoon. Will Rocko take over R&S's spot on Sunday?
How long can trusted Cadet Stimpy and fans hold out? How long before John
K. wishes he pushed the history eraser button on creating R&S??? :)
(BTW, see the R&S Encyclopedia for more month by month commentary)
October 1993: New shows are coming November 20, 1993!!!
December 1993: Three shows have premiered and have flopped (except NO Pants
Today). :( "Untamed World 2" has been edited to death according to WCK 2's
"Nick Boners" section; it may never show up uncut.
16. What about the comic book?
The comic book is produced by Marvel Comics. It is currently up to issue
eighteen, and the PTM spring special is coming out from the same fine folks.
My friend Jamal can explain the going's on with it better than I can.
(Thanks Jamal for the info!)
From Jamal Hannah (jamal@silver.lcs.mit.edu):
I also recently talked to an animation-student friend of mine on the phone
who knows the main artist of the Ren & Stimpy comic pretty well. (Mike
Kazaleh is the main artist.. he's also known for his work on his own comic:
"Captain Jack", from Fantagraphics Books, as well as some stories in the
comic "Critters", also from Fantagraphics Books. More recently Mike has
done work on "The Mighty Mutimals." ... All of these comics would be in the
back-issue's section of a comic store. They are worth looking up, because
Mike Kazaleh has an art style and a zany type of humor of his own that is
quite enjoyable. Mike has also done animation work for Ralph Bakshi-he
designed "The Cow" in "The Adventures of Mighty Mouse" (as well as
animated sequences with him)... in fact, if you really want more Ren &
Stimpy info from Mike himself, you can try writing to him through Marvel
comics or Fantagraphics Books (Editor's Note: what are their address?)
Supposedly, John K. didn't like Mike Kazaleh's work in the Ren & Stimpy
comic, but that's most likely because Mike puts alot more of "himself" into
the work than John K.. (I'm sure John is rather cynical about most of what
is going on with his characters at this point.. to think that if he had just
kept the rights to the characters and gotten a loan, and released the
cartoons on local access cable stations, or somethign simmilar, he may have
made less money at first, but would have kept complete creative control of
his creations and storylines!)
17. Where can I find archived information on R&S?
The official spot for R&S information stored at aug3.augsburg.edu via ftp
(This is anonymous ftp.). To get the FAQ and other documents through
e-mail: send an electronic mail message to ren-n-stimpy@aug3.augsburg.edu
and it will autoreply. With each new updated FAQ, I will be sending a
message telling the people who asked for it to resend to the listserver if
they want the updated version.
I have written a supplemental guide to Nick Sayer's
Not-So-Official-Episode-Guide called "The Ren and Stimpy Encyclopedia." It
contains miscellaneous info. which the other guide doesn't cover, including
the components of shows, SNICK airings, and titles of scripts that are in
production. It is under the filename called "ren-n-stimpy.encyclopedia".
(It was called "The Ren And Stimpy Extra" previously.)
FTP Sites For Ren And Stimpy are what you are searching? Then try Adam
Frampton at frampton@access.digex.com for a list of them! (Look for his
periodic postings on alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy.)
18. Has John K. seen this FAQ or the other R&S documents?
RUMOR: According to "Lobo" at Auggie BBS (aug3.augsburg.edu), he has shown
it to John K., and he flipped out. He said we did a "good job." More details
as they come. (BTW, Lobo is a good friend of mine)
December 1993: I am sending a copy of the January documents to John K, which
he requested. Hopefully, we'll get some comment on our newsgroup. =O)
April 1994: No response yet. =_O(
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Here's an article of interest from Jenny, our connection to John K.:
In article <C8BCqL.2Fv@news.cis.umn.edu> donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu
(BogusMan) tries to hide his true, evil intentions with:
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In article <1993Jun06.174803.8107@quake.sylmar.ca.us>
Jenny.Lerew%bbs@quake.sylm
>
>After a year or so of browsing the posts here, I am still regularly
>amazed at the amount of information "Judex" seems to be able
>to tap into...what's the deal, guy? Are you a bartender at Small's?
>Do you have a bug on Spumco's phone? Quite a mystery...even John K.
>--while perusing some posts I printed out for him--expressed surprise
>ala "How does this guy know all this stuff?".
>
>BTW, I enjoy reading his opinions/updates, which are(as well as I can
>remember) consistently accurate. Funny too. Just curious!
>
I read. And remember what I read. Just the way I am.
Tell John Hello, and give him my best wishes. Can't wait for his next
project, whatever it may be!
Pax
--Judex--
PS: I started watching the show from day one, that helps a lot too.
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Be afraid, be very afraid. All is not what it seems. Since the end of the
cold war, and the break-up of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact, many
espionage units of those groups have been left out in the cold, so to speak.
A lot of them, with no more military masters to report to, have turned
capitilist with a vengence and are now into industrial and commercial
espionage.
One such spy cell is working in the United States, camouflaged as edu
types at various institutes of higher learning. This cell is working for the
fledgling Russian Animation Technocrat (RAT) and is in the process of
stealing all information on the US cartoon industry technology. Once this
information and technology is in the hands of RAT, RAT will be able to
produce cartoons at one tenth of the US cost and will corner the world toon
market, world domination still being a Russian goal. I am only sure of two
of the three members of this spy cell, and will most likely loose my life
for revealing this information, but here goes:
Judex and Norman are spies! And I have my doubts about Adam too! :)
The Space "See what happens when you don't take your medication" Ranger
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Just wanted to say that Jenny is our spy! Judex and I just read a lot! :)
(Editor's Note: I love getting the final word:)
19. What are John Kricfalusi's future projects?
The following are from different sources, with several of them corroborating
each other. I acknowledge the newsgroup, the magazines, and Billy West.
The NBC Peacock
An apparent move to finance future projects, John K. has designed a
commercial for NBC. It has a peacock pulling off a plunger and displaying
its plummage.
From Jon C Austin (ja2592@gamera.acs.appstate.edu):
>David Price (dprice@convex.com) writes:
>I just spotted something the other night. Several times I have seen
>that NBC runs a 10-15 second cartoon at the top of the hour which
>parodies their old peacock logo. The cartoon peacock at first has no
>tail. Then he takes a deep breath and strains really hard. The tail
>pops out in rainbow colors - the end. They also play the old peacock
>logo music from the 1960's.
>Why am I mentioning this? Because the other night I noticed that for
>a few seconds at the beginning, the familiar "John K." signature
>appears in the corner of the screen. The peacock has that "John K."
>look.
>SO, does this mean that John K. has some working relationship with NBC
>now? Hmmmm. Maybe there is a new series in the works.
NBC this season contracted with a number of graphic artists to make
variation on the NBC peacock. You see different ones at different times
throughout the broadcast schedule : the morphing peacock. the
peacock collage, and yes, the John K. peacock. He was contracted
by NBC to make one: the one that David describes above.
These do not show at the same time every day. But I have noticed
the John K. peacock has run at 8PM EST the last two Thursday nights.
From Mike Cohen (isis@netcom.com):
I remember a great quote from John K in that piece that had me ROTFL. He
said something like "I always dreamt of animating a bird that blows
something wonderful & colorful out of its butt".
"He Hog The Atomic Pig"
From Ron O'Dell (keeper@cats.ucsc.edu):
Excerpts from what appeared in last weekend's "USA Weekend":
Ren & Stimpy's creator John Kricfalusi, ousted by Nickelodeon last
year, makes his cartoon comeback with `He Hog the Atomic Pig'.
The swine's power: supersensitive taste buds. He fights crime with
his sidekick, Half-life, a decaying molecule. Look for the powerful
porker on cable or video next year.
"The Ripping Friends"
Here's a quote from WCK from John K. about the show:
"It's about the world's most manly men, who win their battles through sheer,
raw manliness and willpower. They don't have superpowers, but they have the
suits. They think superheroes are wimps because they have to cheat to win
their battles--how manly are you if you have a superpower? You could beat
the crap out of anyone! That's not very manly. A manly guy will take the
pain along with the victory. It's got to hurt to win--that's
_The_Ripping_Friends_."
No Official Title Yet: "George Liquor's Variety Show"
No real info yet, but it might have George paired up with Jimmy The Hapless
Boy doing R&S-type humor. (Rumored that the first cartoon will feature
George and Jimmy going hunting--a manly sport!)
"Brik Blastoff Of The Outback"
From Paul Martin Barry (pmbarry@acs.ucalgary.ca):
The December issue of Film Threat has some more info and a couple pictures
of "He-Hog the Atomic Pig", along with a shelved project John K. was
working on "Brik Blastoff of the Outback". Brik Blastoff seems to be
along the same lines as "The Killing Friends", although he revamped it to
include some nudity for a pitch to the Playboy Channel. Playboy
apparently "just didn't get the humor."
He-Hog is being independently financed, with some funds coming from the
Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. (CBC) It is slated to appear in
early 1994 on the CBC, with an appearence in the US soon after possibly
on either USA Network, or the cartoon channel (ugh).
Editor's Note: BTW, it's the Cartoon Network, not the cartoon channel, and
the "Killing Friends" should be the "Ripping Friends."
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